Comedian David Baddiel has said he believes Jimmy Carr'srecent controversial joke关于大屠杀是“不可辩驳的”，说这不一定是重要的主题，而是这个笑话的“细节”。
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卡尔（Carr）在新的Netflix Special中发表评论而受到抨击His Dark Material, which dropped on Christmas Day.
In the joke, which he began by warning the audience to ‘strap in’, Carr said: "When people talk about the Holocaust, they talk about the tragedy and horror of six million Jewish lives being lost to the Nazi war machine.
“但是他们从未提及成千上万的吉普赛人被纳粹杀死的吉普赛人。没有人谈论这个问题，因为没人想谈论……这是肯定的。”
Baddiel has since taken to Twitter to say that, while he considers Carr a ‘close friend’, he does not believe the joke was ‘defensible’.
He shared a line he had once told his audience while on tour, with the transcribed quote saying: “You can obviously tell a Holocaust joke that is cruel and inhumane and mean-spirited and racist. Or you can tell one that targets the oppressors, or draws attention to the fundamental evil of it, or shines a light on the humanity of the victims.”
巴德迪尔（Baddiel）在推特上说：“我每天晚上在Trolls: Not The Dollstour as part of a bit arguing that it’s not the subject matter of a joke that counts, it’s the specifics of the individual joke. Clearly, Jimmy Carr’s was the former.”
I said this every night during my Trolls: Not The Dolls tour as part of a bit arguing that it's not the subject matter of a joke that counts, it's the specifics of the individual joke. Clearly, Jimmy Carr's was the former.pic.twitter.com/xI4yWt9U0T
— David Baddiel (@Baddiel)2022年2月5日
He also shared a joke by Devorah Baum, which he believes to be an acceptable example of a Holocaust joke.
This is the joke I was leading to, which is, unlike Jimmy's, I think defensible. Meanwhile, away from stupid discussions about the limits of comedy, my sympathies are with the Roma and Sinti community who suffered so much during the Holocaust.pic.twitter.com/gec5u1hgyi
— David Baddiel (@Baddiel)2022年2月5日
“This is the joke I was leading to, which is, unlike Jimmy’s, I think defensible,” Baddiel said.
As a footnote, I'd add that Jimmy is a close friend of mine and a brilliant stand-up in general. Makes no difference to how I feel or think about this specific joke.
— David Baddiel (@Baddiel)2022年2月5日
在开始时His Dark Material, Carr had issued a 'trigger warning' to the audience.
他在海上山上的现场人群面前说：“在开始之前，请快速触发警告。
“这个节目包含关于可怕事物的笑话。可能影响了您和您所爱的人的可怕事情。”
He added: "But these are just jokes. They’re not the terrible things."
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喜剧演员以前已经说过“取消文化”LADbiblelast year: "It used to be, if you didn't like a comedian that was on telly or something, you'd tut and switch the channel.
"Now you can go on social media and go, 'This f*****g guy, I've never liked this guy'.
“我认为每个人都有声音是很好的。但这并不意味着，仅仅因为您不喜欢它，我们应该摆脱它。
"I don't like people being de-platformed. I don't like people being cancelled. I kind of think everyone's got a right to do their thing - if it's not for you, it's not for you, and it's fine."
Equally, he explained how he knows people have the 'freedom of speech' to air their opinion, but that 'jokes are risks' and 'sometimes it doesn't work for everyone'.
Carr even spoke about the prospect of delivering a 'career-ending' joke in his live show, arguing that people should know what to expect from him by now.
He said: "I've got a piece at the end of the tour, which is called 'career-enders', which is a sequence of career-ending jokes, I've got like 15. Potentially any of those jokes could end my career. I wouldn't be surprised if any of those jokes ended up on the front page and caused a problem.
"So I kind of do those at the end of the show, and it's a nice build and a nice thing, but that's quite sort of tongue-in-cheek really, because you go, 'It's a comedy show, people are cool with this stuff'.
“在世界上有真正问题的人，他们对一些喜剧演员开玩笑并不感到大惊小怪。”
He added: "And also, what's the headline going to be? I always feel like I've been grandfathered in. I've been doing this so long.
"What's the headline - 'Jimmy Carr tells offensive joke'? Shock. I mean, they're gonna struggle saying there's shock."
